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Gas4U
USA
157 Posts |
 Posted - 03/04/2009 : 18:58:17
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Poll Question:
As a Older Service Tech do you Think your Company is Bring in Yonger People and Giveing you less work? Seems More Ads have Techs with 15 to 20 Years Exp Being Pushed aside.
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petropumptech
USA
653 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 20:40:24
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| Is this happening to you, or in your opinion? |
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Kennyl
659 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 22:48:31
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Yes and no IMHO. Some guys keep up and other get set in their ways and wont change with the times.
I miss the good old days when you could fix a pump with a hammer, punch a couple of wrench's and a can of WD-40 but I work hard at keeping up! |
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Kperlow
USA
2716 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 05:20:46
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Originally posted by Kennyl
Yes and no IMHO. Some guys keep up and other get set in their ways and wont change with the times.
I miss the good old days when you could fix a pump with a hammer, punch a couple of wrench's and a can of WD-40 but I work hard at keeping up!
I am glad I am not the only one who remembers those days.
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podczaski
509 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 06:42:30
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| As an "older tech" I remember the old days, but try to keep up. That is just the nature of the business. It is supply and demand. I think that, while I may not have been raised on all of the technology that the younger techs have, and it is not second nature to me all of the time, my attention span is a lot longer, and my work ethic is superior to the majority of them. So I will always be able use that to my advantage. As long as somebody will pay me to learn, I will learn. |
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pump_jockey_01
USA
295 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2009 : 16:55:07
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| What I have seen is some of the older techs are great on the old stuff but don't want to keep up with the times. Now that most of the really old stuff is being replaces some of them let the industry pass them by. |
No the bags on the nozzles are not to keep your hands from getting dirty |
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Kperlow
USA
2716 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2009 : 17:28:13
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| There are a few that can't or do not want to keep up but most of us are leading the pack! |
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hardworking
USA
512 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2009 : 19:04:37
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| Just curious, how old are we talking about? 40's, 50's, 60's? |
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mr_hydraulic
Canada
100 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2009 : 23:40:27
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| I'm 48 this year and been doing it for 30 years. There is no limit to what I will fix as I am always willing to learn. It is a really difficult business to find good employees as there is no classification. We work with very expensive equipment in high pressure situations many times in dangerous or explosive atmospheres. We deal high voltage, moving parts and leaking liquids. We have sites down and have deadlines to get them going because our companies sometimes make promises that are impossible to keep. I'm a plumber/pipefitter/electrician/mechanic/etc., Not to mention my secretarial skills as a paper pusher with all our new safety requirements and ass covering we must do. Young guys all want to be board changers and keyboard punchers. They do not think outside the box and they require a flow chart or direction. We never had flow charts, or if we did they never had our problem listed. Somehow we always got it going. They have no clue about hydraulics and they hate to get dirty. I appreciate this is a generalization but I have had more trainees fail than stick with it. Why would I go into this business when I can got pull data cable for a living and make more money.........coz every day is something new, it's always a challange, and gratifying when you get it working. |
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Gas4U
USA
157 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2009 : 10:20:12
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| I am Talking when the Company Brings in A Know it all with a more Computer base back ground He Does not Help the older Techs who are not up to Speed on Computers then he makes his self out to be a Genious. While Stabbing his Co Worker in The Back? |
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mr_hydraulic
Canada
100 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2009 : 14:08:44
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| There's always a way around it. Get him into something older that you are more familiar with and drop him in it big time. This way the company will realize that the sun probably doesn't shine out his ass. There is no making up for on the job experience and real time situations. You cannot bluff your way out of things that don't require a computer. |
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Kennyl
659 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2009 : 16:04:49
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| Have him rebuild an electric reset and see how he does! |
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hardworking
USA
512 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2009 : 22:02:23
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Originally posted by Kennyl
Have him rebuild an electric reset and see how he does!
They still make those?
Joking.
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mr_hydraulic
Canada
100 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2009 : 19:52:40
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| Too funny. Just what I was thinking............STP issue or a Tokheim 77 reset would be perfect, |
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Kperlow
USA
2716 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2009 : 20:11:51
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77 is easy compared to a veeder root in a dual bennett.
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smiley74
USA
101 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2009 : 21:01:47
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| I love it...It's not that WE OLDER THAN DIRT tech's dont want to catch up to you broadband wifi wireless tom swifts-it's the method which we NOW have to be taught, certainly NOT like it was 10 yrs ago, when a 2-week GB for example class was just that, 2weeks and you walked away feeling like you learned something, not like it is today-my last class for G-site(dont laugh) taught me how to be a clerk or mrg, nothing more-nothing less, Now if SCHOOL was like it was back 10 yrs ago you can be certain WE OLDER THAN DIRT techs would smoke the one's they are turning out today... I'm 55,have been at it since 81 w/6 yrs off due to attitude problem(my fault)but truthfully I have forgoten alot more than I care to admit BUT... I broke my teeth on pumping units, and bennett's/GB/Tokiem/SWest and so many electric resets it isnt funny, you're right, lets see SOMEONE work on a old SC-82 wayne head or 1v or 2v waynes or a 222 or 333 tokiem, I worked on shlumberjunk, AOSmith, OLD gasboys, geeze, the days of hit pumps and I mean REAL hit pumps, dragged off the Islands, how about the Koppens console, oh geeze lets try the Mems I, or II how many of us had to deal with the original WPPLD that V/R came out and had us trial and error their product, some I work with NOW wont get dirty, wont climb in a STP sump, to good to do it, now if you arent a wiz-bang fixer-upper you arent squirt, EFFICENCY, thats the by-word these days, now a days you are expected to whoop out the laptop and load the latest whoppie-ty info jargen on wizbang fix it, or be sure to call one of the know it all's at the fabled help desk and they will lead you by the nose on some wild goose chase when simple deduction has worked then and should work now...For what it's worth WE OLDER techs are the ones who called the help desk and spoke to our product reps with information which has made the BETTER product what it is today, cause had it not been for US you beginners would not have the ease of what the equipment might be today...KPERLOW: I hated working on the Jiffy food stores as they had those dual V/R resets, hell pulling the computer base out of those units and I know as my skinned hands and fingers prove it... |
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