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PEI Staff
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 Posted - 10/04/2006 : 09:30:13
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Poll Question:
Do you think E85 will ever take a 20% market share from gasoline?
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TomE
USA
129 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 20:05:47
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| Maybe when a majority of cars are hybrids. |
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bradengland
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2008 : 22:50:06
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| Only if some dumb congressmen mandate it, the product has not a viable replacement for gasoline and is only available now due to mandates imposed by governmental agencies. |
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bradengland
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2008 : 22:51:52
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forgot to mention this...
If ethenol was viable it would be profitable.
Government tax's all profitable things.
Government currently has to subsidise ethenol.
If ethenol were profitable it would be taxed. |
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POSGURU
USA
155 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 15:31:15
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Hey Zmiller maybe MIT can get Billy Mayes to pitch that engine and you can get two bushels of corn free if you call now!!!!
If I need a specialy designed nickle plated meter etc to get it in the car WHY would I put it in the car?
Remember the 70's and Gasohol....That worked out great!!!! |
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ZMiller
USA
1317 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 08:17:35
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Now that's a funny question. When some moron starts a revolt in the middle east what else will we use?
Thinking Ethanol, liking it or not, all depending on how deep a thinker one might be, AF's are begining to emerge as marketable products world wide. One being in the business of installing and servicing AF dispensing equipment it's best to be prepared. |
There are two theories to arguing with a woman:...neither work!
“It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something really stupid to say and then don't say it.”
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Kennyl
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 22:06:59
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MIT is not working on new technology but rather a different application. Diesel engines can use methanol injection, and with a Diesel you can inject the methanol resulting in power and fuel economy gains as the methanol lowers the air temperature.
Take the government subsidy off of alternative fuels and see what the market share is. |
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ZMiller
USA
1317 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2009 : 09:41:03
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| MIT is always working on new technology different and new applications. That's one of the things they do best. If the government removed the subsidies given to refiners of oil as well, yes the field might be more level. But then again one might ask, why would refiners want that to happen? Major oilfuel refiners are in an unexpected squeeze position regarding AF's. PEI and it's members winn no matter what direction this mess takes us. Who was it that said "when you come to a fork in the road, take it"? Yogi Berra |
There are two theories to arguing with a woman:...neither work!
“It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something really stupid to say and then don't say it.”
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Coast-2-Coast Petroleum
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Posted - 06/25/2009 : 08:32:20
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| GM is the company really producing flexfuel and they are sucking wind so, it is hard to say. |
Buddy "cant bust em" Lee
coast2coastpetro@gmail.com
"The only thing they can't take from you is your story... I'm just trying to live a good one" |
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ZMiller
USA
1317 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2009 : 07:33:48
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| Metro Atlanta at 62 stores pumping E-85 now another 20 permited. Florida 70 stores by the end of the year. |
There are two theories to arguing with a woman:...neither work!
“It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something really stupid to say and then don't say it.”
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CherokeeUST
USA
407 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 07:41:07
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Some states are all E-10+ at the pumps. (ie Minnesota, Missouri)
Unless the government changes the laws they created in 2005, there will be 20% ethanol nationally.
The Noble fooundation is working on improving biofuels.
http://www.noble.org/Research/Biofuels/index.html
We don't see much E-85 here in Oklahoma. But we are seeing an increase in CNG vehicles. Which is probably a bad thing for PEI members. |
The opinions expressed here are entirely mine and are not endorsed by my employer.
Robert |
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ZMiller
USA
1317 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 08:23:52
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| If a service company is going to teach a service repair person how to calibrate a dispenser meter for gasoline and diesel why would that company not spend the extra few seconds it would take to teach the same to calibrate a CNG meter. The dynamics are almost the same. Service and sales companies would be best to watch the curve for future business and stay on or ahead of it. That can only be good for PEI... |
There are two theories to arguing with a woman:...neither work!
“It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something really stupid to say and then don't say it.”
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Kennyl
653 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2009 : 12:40:42
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| I have a few sites with CNG and the CNG supplier services the systems from the nozzle all the way to the pipeline. We were only on site to do the start up of the dispensers. |
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APS Equipment Sales Mgr
USA
593 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 12:48:59
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| Possibly, there are so many stations that are upgrading to E-85, but only if E-85 can be viable. Also it might pick up some when the Hybrid Vehicles start making a good majority of percentage on the streets |
Mike Morgan
National Accounts/Operations Manager
APS International Inc.
1-888-889-2993 Office
MikeM@apsinternationalinc.com |
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Jim_in_MI
USA
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Posted - 10/20/2009 : 21:41:53
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| E85 is profitable now. The problem is that station owners don't understand how to make it profitable for themselves, and there is a limited distribution chain now. Anyone who wants to make 40 cents a gallon profit on E85 TODAY can, and can sell it in volume. |
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ZMiller
USA
1317 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2009 : 14:58:11
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E-85 SALES TO MUSHROOM?
"Today E85 sales barely register, and accurate sales data are hard if not impossible to get. Both of these facts will change. First, E85 sales will mushroom, starting next year. Why? Two reasons: The price will be right, and it will be an outlet for refiners needing to boost ethanol sales to meet annual increases in the renewable fuel mandate as the 10% blend market becomes saturated. Sources say the Southeast will be the second region, behind the Midwest, to see sharp increases in the number of service stations selling E85. The second reason the E85 market is in for a sea change lies in the automakers themselves. They will need accurate E85 sales data to make their case for fuel economy credits, which they desperately need to meet the roughly 5% annual increase in fuel economy standards."--Kiplinger's Biofuels Market Alert, October 14, 2009.
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